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Offline westernatlas772

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Phone problems
« on: 10 August 2014, 14:20:05 »
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Right, got the fone its an Sammy GT S5360, 18 months old, no sim card in it, ive followed online instructions to carry out a hard  reset ( vol = menu = on button) but when I do that the fone starts taking fotos repeatedly until I release the buttons....so...ive gone for the only reset I can, which is a  factory data reset which was successful, its now asking for a sim card......is that adequate or do I need to persist to a Hard reset

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #1 on: 10 August 2014, 17:57:15 »
you can perform resets through options...

why'd you get such a cheap old phone? it has worse camera than your current and is very old and low performing, you should have gone for something newer - its 3 years old and runs Gingerbread - has almost no memory so will be slow after youve installed a few apps and played with it..

256Mb RAM (half mine)
1 core 800Mhz CPU
2  megapixel camera

also, as its gingerbread (The android v2 operating system, currently v4) then your limited to what apps you can use - its really not a smartphone but in-between i'd say

surely you must have got this for nothing from someone>?

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #2 on: 10 August 2014, 18:00:35 »
I got it for nowt from Jan, so thought I would use it for a while, then upgrade after 6 months once Id mastered it.

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« Reply #3 on: 10 August 2014, 18:06:50 »
I got it for nowt from Jan, so thought I would use it for a while, then upgrade after 6 months once Id mastered it.

knew it! lol

thing is gingerbread will be a lot of difference from newer OS... menu options basically the same but the experience is totally different and also same for phone to phone if you use the phones built in pooware hehe like my Sony has all sorts of 'Sony' styled docks (apps running on desktop...think Vista Sidebar but all over yer phone hehe) etc like Sony Facebook and Sony this n that... I just delete..go to google play store and get what I want... you wont get much "smartphone experience" from that - although it will familiarise you with the basics... 

amy has Galaxy Ace she got off her dad...same thing as yours but slightly better...and its nothing like a proper smartphone... 

its  "KIDS SMARTPHONE"... and that comes from a specialists review from 2011

http://alatest.co.uk/topbar/38058482/50374/?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsung.com%2Fuk%2Fconsumer%2Fmobile-devices%2Fsmartphones%2Fandroid%2FGT-S5360MAAXEU

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Smartphones at parent-friendly prices mean that a kid's first phone can be a smartphone, just like dadís. The Samsung S5360 Galaxy Y is part of Samsung's youth-oriented Galaxy Y lineup and promises the Android experience at a bargain...

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #4 on: 10 August 2014, 20:42:13 »
Probably the best low cost fone is the Moto E
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_e-6376.php

Available sim free for £89.95 http://www.phones4u.co.uk/Black/p/MOTEBLCK?packageType=SIMFREE&deviceType=HANDSET or on ebay.

Currently on Android 4.4.3 due to get(if hasn't all ready) the latest 4.4.4 and a strong possibility of getting Android L (android 5 some call) before any of the current expensive mobile flag ships.

Also  at £150 ish is the Moto G 4G that has 4.4.4 all ready and it too will get Android L.

Motorola was a Google company and now Lenovo own them but these phones and Moto X and the new Moto X+1 (due 25 Sept) are Google influenced and are guaranteed Android updates for at least 18 month.

Al have excellent battery life
The earliest Lenovo influenced phone will be in 2015.
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« Reply #5 on: 11 August 2014, 10:25:59 »
@ KRW - my dad was actually gunna get the MOTO-G 8Gb which as you know is better but costs more - quad-core chip too and HD screen - for £139

differences:

screen quality:

Moto-E:
540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches (~256 ppi pixel density) (PPI = Pixels Per Inch)

Moto-G:
720 x 1280 pixels, 4.5 inches (~326 ppi pixel density)

to be fair they would both be sharp too the eye, my 3.5" screen is 320 x 480 pixels (~165 ppi pixel density) and is pretty sharp but can see it could be better


CPU/GPU/Chipset:

Moto-E:
Chipset:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 200
CPU: Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU: Adreno 302

Moto-G:
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8226 Snapdragon 400
CPU: Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU: Adreno 305


Video Recording:
Moto-E:

480p@ 30fps

Moto-G:
720p@30fps

Camera both the same at 5 Megapixels but Moto-G has secondary front camera @ 1.3 Megapixels for video-chat etc

OS:

Moto-E:

Kit-Kat 4.4.2 upgradable to 4.4.3

Moto-G:
Jelly Bean 4.3 upgradable to Kit-Kat 4.4.4

I would get the Moto-G

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« Reply #6 on: 11 August 2014, 11:17:23 »
For £10 more get the moto g 4g it has 8gb plus has 8mb camera and will take a SD card. I bought one sim free for my brother from http://www.tesco.com/direct/motorola-moto-g-4g-black/404-7860.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=404-7860

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« Reply #7 on: 12 August 2014, 08:34:52 »
For £10 more get the moto g 4g it has 8gb plus has 8mb camera and will take a SD card. I bought one sim free for my brother from http://www.tesco.com/direct/motorola-moto-g-4g-black/404-7860.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=404-7860

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #8 on: 15 August 2014, 17:49:26 »
Thanks for all the help here, Ive been trying out this free sammy, no sim card in it but tried it out on my wifi, it works fine, loads pages in 3 secs, very impressed...BUT...the screen is too small, its 2 1/2 inches, no wonder its the youth model, you would need sharp kids eyes to read it, then if you expand, your lost in a ocean of print and pictures...I need a bigger screen. I like the Moto G 8gb, they are £129 on EE PAYG at Asda online, but they are sold out at the mo so will probs have to order one

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #10 on: 15 August 2014, 21:14:33 »
Yea....just been to Tesco Carlisle, theres is £129 sim free too, but they had just closed.

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« Reply #11 on: 16 August 2014, 08:50:46 »
so you got one but it came without a wall charger....surely thats not the norm...does it say how many milliamps it is?  -charge off PC for now...it may even charge when your PC is off (but not at the wall obviously) - mine does but dunno if yours has that feature

you can buy them on ebay but be carefull...check the milliamp vs phone's mA

e.g. things like this i hate too see... 2000mA (2A) Tablet or PHONE charger... dont think there are many if any 2000mA phones around: phones are typically 500-800mA
Ebay Link

DONT BUY DAD LOL...

some say phones have regulators in them that make sure the right amount of power gets too the battery

1) our lass occasionally used her Tablet charger (2000mA) on her phone (565mA) and wondered why after few weeks the battery would randomly get hot (almost melting point) and then it would go dead and need charging constantly

2) exploding e-cigs...we all saw that on the news...."ah i just used my tablet charger on the e-cig"  BANG!

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #12 on: 16 August 2014, 16:21:18 »
Well...I went into Tesco this morning to buy a Moto G 8gb on EE, they are £129 in the shop but £119 on Tesco online, and, Tesco  do every network but  EE, so left and tried Carfone warehouse, they also did the fone for £119, but again I couldnt get EE with it ...went to Asda, they Have the EE network but not the Moto G fone...(why does that keep happening), why is it that niether of those big chains  can get me EE with this fone, thats strange and I dont understand it, it seems to me that there are lots of hurdles and obstacles to jump over to get to what you want, over the last week, I also seem to be getting different answers at different places to the same question...( If I BUY a fone, and using PAYG  I purchase £10 of call/text/data, and I dont use ANY of it for a month...will I lose it at the end of the month so I will have to purchase it all again the following month) and Ive had a number of opposing answers like..."YES you lose it all"......"NO you dont, it carries over"....and...."WELL, you will lose the free texts and free data but keep any unused calltime or bolt ons"...I took my partner with me to help out, but we were totally confused by it., It all sounded like rubbish to me, Donald Trumps sales pitches sprang to mind so we left empty handed again.
 

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Re: Phone problems
« Reply #13 on: 16 August 2014, 17:24:56 »
If you can buy the phone sim free and call at ee  shop or newsagent and get a pay as go sim from them.
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« Reply #14 on: 16 August 2014, 23:55:37 »
Thanks for that KRW, Turned out the cheap Moto G at Tesco is locked to them, The only sim free I can locate is in PC World for £135....They sell em cheap on Amazon but I dont want a fake. I am looking for a top-up PAYG deal that DOES NOT expire each month, so you only pay for what you have used...nothing more nothing less. 3 offer such a deal, you can use up your calls texts and data until your last penny even if it takes 6 months to spend £10, then you top up again, not monthly, all the other networks seem to expire at 30 days so you loose your allowance and have to top up again for another month, if they do do a top up PAYG they dont claim it in their sites, do you know of any other network that has the same approach as 3,  Also, 3 has the second best uk coverage behind EE but above orange and Tmob.   Thanks for any help

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« Reply #15 on: 17 August 2014, 07:14:51 »
Im not aware of another network that has 60 day like 3. As for Amazon you have protection from fakes.

I know with tescomobile that you get a sim only monthly deal and put cap on the monthly spend e.g pay each month  £7.50 per month  and cap at £10 so you never pay more than £10 but on a 12 month contract you pay £7.50 you pay that every month.
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« Reply #16 on: 17 August 2014, 07:59:10 »
there is no such thing as a PAYG mobile contract THAT DOES NOT EXPIRE - you lose it all every month if you dont use it and start a fresh... thats why it says 500Gb data (per month) etc... its impossible -  you dont get rolling over minutes etc...its never happened...  same with Pay Monthly phones, you get it for each month then anything you havent used is reset and your back too your full monthly allotted amount - it doesnt work where you use 250Gb of your 500 then next month you have 750Gb

im surprised you dont know this after owning a PAYG o2 phone for years hehe

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« Reply #17 on: 17 August 2014, 11:09:33 »
yea ...BUT... you say there that "you dont get rolling over minutes...its never happened, but I do get it on my present fone , Im a VERY light user, I dont have any Friends, my workmates are good for a laugh but at arms length, and I am 60 and a sad n lonely basket case. I only have a fone in case I breakdown on the motorbike, I want a new fone so I can surf the internet occsionally when Im away from my pc at home.    Im on PAYG O2....I put £10 on my fone, and whatever does not get used that month carries on into the next month...then the next...and the next till it expires, then I top up again... SO....my minutes are rolling over monthly...What I wanna know is if these new smartphones have the same PAYG deal cos I dont want to be in a situation where I pay £120 for a effin fone,......tied into a efin yearly PAYG contract @ £10 per efin month...... spending all your hard earned inheritance that has taken me 60 years to accumulate to a bunch of nerds in suits.......He He

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« Reply #18 on: 17 August 2014, 14:18:26 »
Why not just buy a sim free phone and use your current sim. Your sim is probably the standard one, the moto g uses a micro sim so you need to ask o2 for a replacement micro sim. That way you keep your existing o2 tariff which I'd say is a legacy one. When requesting a replacement micro sim you need to insist retaining your tariff.
Legacy tariff like yours don't exist now.
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« Reply #19 on: 17 August 2014, 14:51:10 »
If o2 will not supply a replacement sim with NO change of tariff you might consider these mini sim phones (standard size) Sony xperia e1 or L, huawei ascend y300, lg optimus l5
The Sony e1 is the newest
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