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Post your new TV recommendations please
« on: 15 July 2013, 02:09:38 »
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Hello all.

I'm currently doing some home upgrades at present and looking at adding a new TV set to the main viewing area.

I currently have a Sony Bravia something or other 37" LCD which is around 5 or 6 years old.
I tend not to watch a lot of TV but do tend to watch streaming content, Media from network, Movies and mostly gaming. I would say the set is on 90% of the time for long gaming sessions.

I know plasma is best for gaming and movies pretty much but after me giving a few plasmas IR and one with screen burn I think I would prefer to go with LED/LCD again. I have read several discussions on here about blurring, Banding etc for the LED/LCD TV's so not without their own issues!

Although the Sony is an old beast, It has done me well so far but I would imagine in the 5 years I have had the Sony then surely the panels should be better than what I already have?

Can some of you recommend some TV's around my price range that I can go and check out? I'm wanting to increase the size to maybe somewhere between 46-50" I think. Looking to spend around the 1k-1.5k price range.

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« Reply #1 on: 15 July 2013, 02:35:39 »
Samsung Smart TV's are good = one my sis has 46" is great, it has wifi+LAN can use internet, facebook and Youtube etc on it, plays movies from USB (I dunno if the attached USB can be a NAS but would imagine as you can connect them to windows PC's) - pic quality & color is great and motion-plus is excellent, after owning an LG for last 5 years its probably what I would get if I could

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« Reply #2 on: 15 July 2013, 02:55:46 »
Samsung Smart TV's are good = one my sis has 46" is great, it has wifi+LAN can use internet, facebook and Youtube etc on it, plays movies from USB (I dunno if the attached USB can be a NAS but would imagine as you can connect them to windows PC's) - pic quality & color is great and motion-plus is excellent, after owning an LG for last 5 years its probably what I would get if I could

also:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs
I have seen a lot of people recommend Samsung's but also read that they seem to suffer more from banding compared to say a Sony. Saying that though, my parents have a 55" Samsung smart TV and it looks great! I reckon I'll be mainly looking at Panasonic, Sony and Samsung units.

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« Reply #3 on: 15 July 2013, 07:51:52 »
I have a 50" plasma and a 37" led both LG and both brilliant tv's
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« Reply #4 on: 15 July 2013, 10:34:14 »
I found a few threads on Sony W805 and Sony W905. They sound great and have known low lag times which will be good for gaming. I'll check out the LG items too as I have also found a good amount of reviews on some LG models.

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« Reply #5 on: 15 July 2013, 16:39:44 »
anything made by Panasonic seem to have good picture/sound and reliability/long life

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« Reply #6 on: 15 July 2013, 20:01:05 »
1 vote for Samsung, I have a LG smart tv, not really smart since found it has webOS so adobe flash content will not run in the browser (I know Android doesnot run Flash but there are flash apps out there) so I cannot run 4OD, ITVplayer and Channel 5 ondemand. In fact none of the streaming sites (tubeplus, project free tv, Watchseriesonline)  run, browser cannot differentiate the popups. Does have Blinkbox, Youtube, BBC iplayer, Love films, Netflix.
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« Reply #7 on: 16 July 2013, 01:40:47 »
I'm trailing through reviews and recommendations on AVForums when I can. Trying to get a few models written down and then go and try view these items at local stores to me.
What do you guys prefer when it comes to 3D? Active or passive? I hear some people have issues with sore heads etc using active glasses.
One review and TV I have on my list for viewing is the 46" Sony W905A unit that was just released. A bit over budget but I'm sure I spotted it online for a few hundred cheaper than most places. Feedback from the AVforums on that TV set is very good. Failing that, Possibly the model below which is the W805A.
Any models from Panasonic, Samsung or LG that you believe I should add to me 'check list', Please post them up  :D

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« Reply #8 on: 16 July 2013, 10:48:29 »
I have a 50" Panasonic Plasma, ( see my post ).but I don't use it for gaming, superb picture quality.

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« Reply #9 on: 16 July 2013, 11:04:41 »
There is no doubt plasma has better picture quality. I just wish IR wasn't such an issue.

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« Reply #10 on: 16 July 2013, 11:12:57 »
There is no doubt plasma has better picture quality. I just wish IR wasn't such an issue.

I never had any IR on my old Philips Plasma ( 6 years old ), but as I say, I don't use TV for gaming.

So I do understand your preference to avoid plasma. ;)

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« Reply #11 on: 16 July 2013, 12:43:42 »
Yeah unfortunately after past experiences and modern day games where most have constant heads up display bits on screen, I fear the worst for them!

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« Reply #12 on: 16 July 2013, 14:36:43 »
Most places are selling SONY BRAVIA KDL46W905 for 1599
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« Reply #14 on: 16 July 2013, 18:52:56 »
From my experience of my LG mine is great picture, design, WiFi and lan but limited apps and the browser is rubbish, I would not buy a LG so called smart TV again.
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« Reply #15 on: 16 July 2013, 18:56:44 »
Krw what lg did you have its funny because i dont think i would have anything else
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« Reply #16 on: 16 July 2013, 19:05:30 »
Mine is a 32LS575T, there is no 4oD, ITVplayer or Channel5 ondemand app and trying to use the browser to acces these does not work no Flash plugin and no download/install a alternative from LG, no google play store as not Android based (I believe the old HP webOS firmware).


Cannot play TVcatch up or any web based video streaming site like Firstrows sports, cricfree. Samsung are Android based as I think Sony and others, Samsung also I believe has Google playstore.


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« Reply #17 on: 16 July 2013, 20:20:52 »
You won't get Screen Burn on any decent Plasma now mate.

Panny all the way - Pioneer passed on all their R&D to Panny after their sad demise.

3D is nonsense to me, a passing fad, but check out the recent Panny's on AVForums and TechRadar's reviews  ;)

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« Reply #18 on: 16 July 2013, 21:28:21 »
Thanks for the links Thomas.
I'll be sure to take note of them when I go into the several shops I need to visit.
Unfortunately the closest Richer Sounds shop is approx 150 miles from me.

I do have a sevenoaks sound and vision close by though.

Milo, I could have sworn I was reading something the other day when someone mentioned getting a plasma for gaming due to IR/burn not being an issue anymore. He was told by several people that it will always be an issue to a certain extent??

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« Reply #19 on: 16 July 2013, 21:33:20 »
The other thing to think about with 3D, is there much 3D content out there? I guess there is gonna be more and more all the time though as time goes by
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« Reply #20 on: 16 July 2013, 21:54:06 »
Milo I wondered when you were gonna comment you seem to know your stuff about tv's
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« Reply #21 on: 16 July 2013, 22:23:38 »
I thought Screen Burn was something that only affected CRT TV's...?

then i read this:

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http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1657520-screen-burn-what-ir.html

I will gather more info and post it here, when time permits.
Anybody with knowledge of plasma technology that wishes to add or alter anything please feel free to pm me.

Image retention known as IR: This is normal and more prominent whilst a set beds in/settles. Created by a residual charge remaining in a cell, appearing as a ghost of what created it i.e. a channel logo, IR can dissapear immediately or in some cases can stay for periods of time.
How clear the IR is and how long it lasts depends on several things.

A. How long the set has run, plasma reduces in intensity over time, for the first few hundred hours the cells will be burning brighter as the new phosphors take time to settle.

B. Contrast can affect the degree of IR what you get as this controls the brighter part of the picture(brightness control actually affects the black level).

C. Not all agree fully on this but sharpness can also effect IR to a lesser degree though its best to not have this set high anyway.

D. How long static content is displayed on the screen and bright the image displayed is.

Screen burn: Screen burn is NOT created directly by IR, it is a separate process.
Appearing as a shadow burn is uneven wear of the screen and takes time to appear unless a screen is faulty. It is very hard to burn a modern plasma even when trying create it.
If you displayed a black and white image where the background was black and some text being bright white you would need to display this 24-7 for a couple of weeks to have any chance of achieving permanent burn, even then you may only achieve persistent IR.

Persistent IR is NOT burn but IR that may take several days or weeks to remove.

This is very basic just to inform the laymen out there that may be confusing these issues.
I will add more technical information at later date, including ways to remove IR.
I will leave this open for now so any experts can add to this thread. Please do not post questions or discuss the issue, this thread is NOT for that and posts will be removed.
Any contributions made to explain IR and burn will be added to this post and the original removed. This is meant to inform members that may be confused about these issues.

This thread will hopefully remain or be replaced by more detailed and informative information.

with that in mind I think I would stay away from Plasma TV's - seems like they do have their inherited problems from the technology.
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« Reply #22 on: 16 July 2013, 22:35:51 »
my plasma vs led i would rather watch the led any day. i wish we got led for downstairs but because of the children i thought it would be safer to have the plasma screen, typical they have never touched it
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« Reply #23 on: 16 July 2013, 23:02:45 »
Milo, I could have sworn I was reading something the other day when someone mentioned getting a plasma for gaming due to IR/burn not being an issue anymore. He was told by several people that it will always be an issue to a certain extent??
If you 'run it in' correctly, then you won't suffer it - there are Threads on AV Forums of how to properly set Plasma's for the first few 100 hours. Even if you did get this issue, there are ways of ridding it...

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« Reply #24 on: 16 July 2013, 23:03:17 »
my plasma vs led i would rather watch the led any day.
How come?

 

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