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Chit-Chat / Re: Morning, afternoon or good night
« Last post by Roco on 19 June 2017, 14:57:24 »
mon 19th , temp now 34C wind O MPH,  but the barometer is now slowly falling ,   by Thur/Fri temps should be down to around 26 C ,  and 50% chance of rain , just in time for the Glastonbury festival   >:D
Introductions / Re: welcome fudgie
« Last post by Roco on 19 June 2017, 14:40:29 »
@ Roco. lol:1

Im now a Regular Member :angel:
  me too , I find a bowl prunes helps  ;) ............ :Dw

btw had some bad news................J/K
The wife has been missing a week now.   Police said to prepare for the worst.

So I have been back to the charity shop to get all her clothes back.
Chit-Chat / Re: Morning, afternoon or good night
« Last post by thar on 18 June 2017, 21:10:45 »
I'm in Pwlleli North Wales this weekend. Lovely weather today. I'm keeping "in" the sun :)

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Chit-Chat / Re: Morning, afternoon or good night
« Last post by 1bit on 18 June 2017, 20:08:32 »
27'c here...keeping out the sun!
Chit-Chat / Re: Morning, afternoon or good night
« Last post by Den1 on 18 June 2017, 16:55:07 »
Currently very warm here 84f  have every fan in the house running at max.
Introductions / Re: welcome fudgie
« Last post by fudgietheoriginal on 18 June 2017, 08:30:44 »
@ Roco. lol:1

Im now a Regular Member :angel:
Forum News & Chat / Re: MOVING HOSTS!!!!!!!!!!
« Last post by fudgietheoriginal on 18 June 2017, 08:22:34 »
 thankyou:1 1bit for looking after things here.
Chit-Chat / Morning, afternoon or good night
« Last post by fudgietheoriginal on 18 June 2017, 08:17:11 »
Absolutely brillant weather we are having ATM.
Current temp 21.7c/71.1f.
Although it maybe a little warm for some, so make sure you stay hydrated and cool, if you can.
Otherwise just enjoy the weather.  :)

Editor's Note, June 16: We've attempted to clarify the distinctions between the "true" Core i9 processors, and the other members of the Core i7-family that share some common architectural elements.

Intel’s Core i9 processor is what happens when Intel begins to worry that it might not have the baddest chip on the block. And if you’re desperate for one, here’s some great news: Some Core i9 preorders begin the week of June 19, with the remainder launching through October.

Just weeks after AMD disclosed its massive 16-core, 32-thread Threadripper chip, Intel dropped its bomb: The Core i9 family will have up to 18 cores and 36 threads, making them possibly the most powerful consumer PC chips ever made.

Read on for the speeds, feeds, and prices of the new Core i9 chips, and all the details we have on the underlying technologies. Also, stay tuned for more information: We haven’t had a chance to test the new Core i9 chips yet, and the availability and pricing of the associated X299 motherboards remain unknown. We’ll update this post with new information and testing as we get it.

The latest news

At the PC Gaming show at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) on June 12, Intel senior vice president Gregory Bryant announced that Intel would begin taking preorders for the Core i7 X-series chips and the 10-core Core i9 7900X the week of June 20. Intel will launch the 12-core Core i9-7920X, the 14-core Core i9-7940X, the 16-core Core i9-7960X, and the 18-core Core i9-7980XE from August through October, with exact dates and pricing to be disclosed later. (Intel confirmed separately that the 12-core i9-7920X will launch in August, and the 18-core Core i9-7980XE in October.)

Pricing and release date

Unfortunately, all that performance comes at a hefty price. Note that Intel hasn’t released the clock speeds of all of the Core i9 family yet. They’re all unlocked, though—ready and waiting to be overclocked. Here’s a summary of the core counts and prices of the Core i9 chips we do know, including clock speeds where available.

Core i9 Extreme Edition:

Core i9-7980XE: 18 cores/36 threads, $1,999
Core i9:

Core i9-7960X: 16 cores/32 threads, $1,699
Core i9-7940X: 14 cores/28 threads, $1,399
Core i9-7920X: 12 cores/24 threads, $1,199
Core i9-7900X (3.3GHz): 10 cores/20 threads, $999
Core i7:

Core i7 7820X (3.6GHZ), 8 cores/16 threads, $599
Core i7-7800X (3.5GHz), 6 cores/12 threads, $389
Core i7-7740X (4.3GHz), 4 cores/8 threads, $339 
Core i5:

Core i5-7640X (4.0 GHz), 4 cores, 4 threads, $242
intel Core i9 speeds and feeds
Intel still hasn’t provided all of the details for all of its new chips, but here’s the latest, official word.
At this point, we don’t know exactly when the new Core i9 family will ship—or whether all of the chips will ship at once, or be staggered over time. We do know that you’ll be able to preorder the Core i7 X-series chips and the 10-core Core i9 7900X the week of June 20. We also know that the 12-core i9-7920X will launch in August, and the 18-core Core i9-7980XE in October.

Frequently asked questions

What is Core i9?

On May 30 at Computex, Intel formally announced the Core i9 high-end chips for PC enthusiasts. At the high end, it's quite simple: The Core i9 family consists of what's known as the Skylake-X architecture, with processors that include 10, 12, 14, and 16 cores.

From there, it becomes a bit complicated. For some reason, Intel decided that the 8-core and 6-core Skylake-X chips aren't worthy enough, so they carry the Core i7 name. They share some common architectural features with the "true" Core i9 chips, though, so we've included them. The same goes for a second family of chips, known as Kaby Lake-X -- basically the same seventh-generation CPUs you've seen on laptops and desktops for more than a year, but that also connect to the same X299 chipset as the Skylake-X chips do. The two Kaby Lake-X chips will be quad-core only parts.

Colloquially, you may also see these chips referred to as the Skylake-X family, the X-series of chips, or by their code name, “Basin Falls.”

When can I get Core i9?

Intel hasn’t said yet when Core i9 will ship. We do know that you’ll be able to preorder the Core i7 X-series chips and the 10-core Core i9 7900X the week of June 20. Intel confirmed separately that the 12-core i9-7920X will launch in August, and the 18-core Core i9-7980XE in October.

Who should buy Core i9?

As you might guess from the prices, these chips aren’t for everyone. You don’t remotely need 18 cores and 36 threads unless you’re doing resource-intensive multitasking, such as video or gaming.

How much will Core i9 cost?

The least-expensive Core i9 chip will be the Core i5-7640X, at $242. The Core i7 chips will range from $339 to $599. The Core i9 chips will be priced from $999 to $1699. The most expensive will be the Extreme Edition (Core i9-7980XE) for $1,999. 

Where does Core i9 fit into the Intel Core family?

Core i9 is Intel’s fifth PC processor family, starting with the Core m and moving up through the traditional Core i3, i5, and i7 chips to Core i9. As the numerical sequencing suggests, Core i9 represents Intel’s most prestigious chip family, offering the best performance at the highest price.

It's not exactly clear what makes a chip a Core i9. The lowest-end Core i9-7900X, for example, shares the same amount of cores as the previous 10-core Core i7-6950X. Still, if you are looking to buy or build today and want the fastest Intel has to offer, Core i9 is probably the easiest way to tell.

How does Core i9 relate to Broadwell-E?

Core i9 succeeds Broadwell-E as Intel’s supreme, enthusiast desktop chip family.

At the top of the heap sits Core i9 Extreme Edition, part of the Core i9 family, but a supercharged subset of its own. Right now, it’s just a single chip: the Core i9 Extreme Edition i9-7980XE.

Will I need a new motherboard for Core i9?

Yes. All Core i9 CPUs will use a new Socket R4, a 2,066-pin LGA socket that will require a brand-new motherboard. Intel’s Core i9 family is not backward-compatible with existing Skylake or Kaby Lake motherboards.

PCWorld’s review (forthcoming)

Intel hasn’t formally released the Core i9 family yet, but we plan to test it as soon as it’s available. Intel has said that the new chips will be 15 percent faster than last-generation Broadwell-E chips in single-threaded apps and 10 percent faster in multithreaded tasks. We’ll test that claim and let you know.

Basic specs: Clock speed, core count, prices, socket, ship date

The processor specs that matter most concern performance. The raw clock speed determines how fast any one thread can be acted upon, while the core and thread counts control how many threads or tasks can be calculated in parallel. The Core i9 series excels in these metrics. Unfortunately, you’ll pay a hefty premium for that talent.

The new chips will consume 112W or 140W (depending on the chip), requiring a liquid-cooling solution. Intel has said there will be a 165W chip, too, but the company hasn’t specifically identified it. We’re guessing it will be the Core i9-7980XE.

More importantly, they’ll all use a new Socket R4, a 2,066-pin LGA socket that will require a brand-new motherboard. Intel’s Core i9 family is not backward-compatible with existing Skylake or Kaby Lake motherboards.

Some of the "top ISPs" are in "very thorough" discussions with anti-piracy outfit Rightscorp over proposals to hijack the browsers of alleged pirates until a fine is paid. Rightscorp is presenting this as an opportunity for ISPs to avoid being sued as well as a way to generate profit for the company.

For the past several years, anti-piracy outfit Rightscorp has been moderately successful in forcing smaller fringe ISPs in the United States to collaborate in a low-tier copyright trolling operation.

The way it works is relatively simple. Rightscorp monitors BitTorrent networks, captures the IP addresses of alleged infringers, and sends DMCA notices to their ISPs. Rightscorp expects ISPs to forward these to their customers along with an attached cash settlement demand.

These demands are usually for small amounts ($20 or $30) but most of the larger ISPs don’t forward them to their customers. This deprives Rightscorp (and clients such as BMG) of the opportunity to generate revenue, a situation that the anti-piracy outfit is desperate to remedy.

One of the problems is that when people who receive Rightscorp ‘fines’ refuse to pay them, the company does nothing, leading to a lack of respect for the company. With this in mind, Rightscorp has been trying to get ISPs involved in forcing people to pay up.

In 2014, Rightscorp said that its goal was to have ISPs place a redirect page in front of ‘pirate’ subscribers until they pay a cash fine.

“[What] we really want to do is move away from termination and move to what’s called a hard redirect, like, when you go into a hotel and you have to put your room number in order to get past the browser and get on to browsing the web,” the company said.

In the three years since that statement, the company has raised the issue again but nothing concrete has come to fruition. However, there are now signs of fresh movement which could be significant, if Rightscorp is to be believed.

“An ISP Good Corporate Citizenship Program is what we feel will drive revenue associated with our primary revenue model. This program is an attempt to garner the attention and ultimately inspire a behavior shift in any ISP that elects to embrace our suggestions to be DMCA-compliant,” the company told shareholders yesterday.

“In this program, we ask for the ISPs to forward our notices referencing the infringement and the settlement offer. We ask that ISPs take action against repeat infringers through suspensions or a redirect screen. A redirect screen will guide the infringer to our payment screen while limiting all but essential internet access.”

At first view, this sounds like a straightforward replay of Rightscorp’s wishlist of three years ago, but it’s worth noting that the legal landscape has shifted fairly significantly since then.

Perhaps the most important development is the BMG v Cox Communications case, in which the ISP was sued for not doing enough to tackle repeat infringers. In that case (for which Rightscorp provided the evidence), Cox was held liable for third-party infringement and ordered to pay damages of $25 million alongside $8 million in legal fees.

All along, the suggestion has been that if Cox had taken action against infringing subscribers (primarily by passing on Rightscorp ‘fines’ and/or disconnecting repeat infringers) the ISP wouldn’t have ended up in court. Instead, it chose to sweat it out to a highly unfavorable decision.

The BMG decision is a potentially powerful ruling for Rightscorp, particularly when it comes to seeking ‘cooperation’ from other ISPs who might not want a similar legal battle on their hands. But are other ISPs interested in getting involved?

According to the Rightscorp, preliminary negotiations are already underway with some big players.

“We are now beginning to have some initial and very thorough discussions with a handful of the top ISPs to create and implement such a program that others can follow. We have every reason to believe that the litigations referred to above are directly responsible for the beginning of a change in thinking of ISPs,” the company says.

Rightscorp didn’t identify these “top ISPs” but by implication, these could include companies such as Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner Cable, CenturyLink, Charter, Verizon, and/or even Cox Communications.

With cooperation from these companies, Rightscorp predicts that a “cultural shift” could be brought about which would significantly increase the numbers of subscribers paying cash demands. It’s also clear that while it may be seeking cooperation from ISPs, a gun is being held under the table too, in case any feel hesitant about putting up a redirect screen.

“This is the preferred approach that we advocate for any willing ISP as an alternative to becoming a defendant in a litigation and facing potential liability and significantly larger statutory damages,” Rightscorp says.

A recent development suggests the company may not be bluffing. Back in April the RIAA sued ISP Grande Communcations for failing to disconnect persistent pirates. Yet again, Rightscorp is deeply involved in the case, having provided the infringement data to the labels for a considerable sum.

Whether the “top ISPs” in the United States will cave into the pressure and implied threats remains to be seen but there’s no doubting the rising confidence at Rightscorp.

“We have demonstrated the tenacity to support two major litigation efforts initiated by two of our clients, which we feel will set a precedent for the entire anti-piracy industry led by Rightscorp. If you can predict the law, you can set the competition,” the company concludes.

Meanwhile, Rightscorp appears to continue its use of disingenuous tactics to extract money from alleged file-sharers.

In the wake of several similar reports, this week a Reddit user reported that Rightscorp asked him to pay a single $20 fine for pirating a song. After paying up, the next day the company allegedly called the user back and demanded payment for a further 200 notices.
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