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Is Social Media good for us? ....what say you?
« on: 22 July 2017, 11:58:30 »
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Rocos thread got me thinking...

IMO Social Media (Mobile mostly) is very bad for us

1) it prevents us from going out with friends & family by a huge percentage than before, as most prefer to stay in or where we are and chat over Social Media.
2) we spend more time sitting on our ars3es when doing it at home, Health?
3) for a lot of us, as time goes on distance between friends becomes further and we put off visits
    because we become used to being on our own.
4) its used as breeding ground for paedophiles. (look up Gaurdians of the North and others set them
    up and catch them out) so it does happen, what about the ones that dont get caught.

I find that most the people I've known over the years have become reclusive and I strongly believe its because they are use to being stuck in the house or dont have to FACE friends to tell them stuff (that they might otherwise be scared to say face-to-face)

I can see the population becoming bigger and fatter (as it already has since the introduction of the electronic microchip)

whats your opinion>??
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Re: Is Social Media good for us? ....what say you?
« Reply #1 on: 22 July 2017, 21:24:13 »
Problem is people believe what they are told on social media as well, " Oh i heard it on facebook so it must be true"    >:(
with regard to groups like "Guardians of the North" etc i am not realty in favor of vigilantes because sooner or later  an Innocent person is going to get accused of this nastiness and unfortunately mud sticks.
Having watched a few of these stings on you tube  their legality is questionable to say the least , what happens if knife's or heaven forbid guns get pulled things will get very ugly very quick, don't get me wrong i would be the first to plant one between their eyes  if i caught them at it with any youngster of my family or friends. 
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« Reply #2 on: 24 July 2017, 21:14:11 »
Problem is people believe what they are told on social media as well, " Oh i heard it on facebook so it must be true"    >:(
with regard to groups like "Guardians of the North" etc i am not realty in favor of vigilantes because sooner or later  an Innocent person is going to get accused of this nastiness and unfortunately mud sticks.
Having watched a few of these stings on you tube  their legality is questionable to say the least , what happens if knife's or heaven forbid guns get pulled things will get very ugly very quick, don't get me wrong i would be the first to plant one between their eyes  if i caught them at it with any youngster of my family or friends. 
Just my opinion for whats its worth.

I feel the exact same mate - its ENTRAPMENT in a way... yes its getting a person to ADMIT that he/she has Paedophilia issues and needs help, but their tactics are questionable, im actually surprised the police arrest them? because technically he/she hasnt DONE anything yet...just led to believe its going to happen...   isnt that ENTRAPMENT which is illegal?
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« Reply #3 on: 04 August 2017, 14:30:23 »
continuing about how we didnt like their practices..


http://darkjustice.co.uk/paedophile-hunters-such-as-dark-justice-told-to-leave-it-to-the-professionals-police-warn/

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Paedophile hunters such as Dark Justice and Guardians of the North have been urged to “leave it to the professionals” as police bolster covert efforts to tackle online grooming.

Senior officers said vigilante groups could put child abuse investigations at risk .

The warning comes as Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced £20 million funding to extend an initiative where undercover detectives operated in internet chat rooms and forums used by suspected offenders.

Forty-three people were arrested and 19 were charged as a result of the year-long pilot in eastern England, led by Norfolk Police, and officers believe they have safeguarded at least 25 children.

Detective Superintendent Steven Woollett, of the Kent and Essex serious crime directorate, said the Government’s cash injection to extend the scheme to the rest of England and Wales would make a “real difference” in helping to identify suspects and protect children.

Members from Dark Justice on Newcastle Quayside
Members from Dark Justice on Newcastle Quayside (Image: Sunday Mirror)
He declined to be drawn on how police work in an online realm that has increasingly seen members of the public take action to trap child abusers themselves.

Mr Woollett said offenders might become more evasive as a result of the groups’ actions.

He said: “My personal view is, as much as they may be well intended, there is the potential to hinder police investigations.

“My message to them would be we are professional law enforcement – leave it to the professionals.

 
“I would have to admit they’ve had some success – we need to balance that success against the potential harm by heightening the awareness of individuals.

“I think with all strands of criminality, those people responsible become more aware and more cute around their business.”

But he added: “I would not be able to say vigilante groups have increased that.”

Tyneside-based duo Dark Justice claim on their website to have helped snare 104 sex crime suspects, leading to 50 convictions.

Dark Justice appear on ITV's This Morning
Dark Justice appear on ITV’s This Morning (Image: ITV)
Earlier this year they were handed the green light to continue their work following a landmark legal ruling.

Defence lawyers acting on behalf of alleged paedophiles caught by the group argued that evidence collected by such organisations should not be used in court due to the way it is gathered.

But the judge said there was no legal requirement for the activities of the group to be subjected to controls.

National Police Chiefs Council lead for child protection, Chief Constable Simon Bailey, who said police are arresting more than 400 offenders and protecting more than 500 children every month.

He said: “This increase in our undercover capability will send a clear message to so-called paedophile hunters: if you have information about child abuse, tell the police.

“Don’t try to take it into your own hands, you could undermine police investigations creating more risk for the children we all want to protect.”

Footage of Dark Justice snaring Anthony Morgan, from Shiremoor
Footage of Dark Justice snaring Anthony Morgan, from Shiremoor (Image: Dark Justice)
The funding, through the Police Transformation Fund, will see police forces jointly monitor forums and share intelligence in collaboration with the National Crime Agency Child Exploitation and Online Protection command.

Ms Rudd said: “Child sexual exploitation has a profoundly devastating impact on the lives of its victims, and it’s a national policing priority to take on the threat it poses.

“We believe this project has shown early promise in tackling these complex crimes through an innovative approach.”
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